Jerry Sandusky ‘s adopted son Matt has the same surname, which is now scorned by most of the country. But he spoke out and told his version of the alleged abuse during a 29-minute recording.

Despite extraordinary pressure to support Sandusky, Matt, who met his adoptive father through The Second Mile, claims the abuse started when he was just 8 years old.

In this video, you’ll hear some details that would have been used in court had he testified as a surprise prosecution witness.